Logitech Ultrathin Touch Mouse T630 for Windows 8 Touch Gestures

02/18/2014 I ordered this mouse because of its dual Bluetooth connectivity, the allure of the touch sensitivity, its looks and the Logitech brand. For mice, I tend to be brand loyal to Logitech and to Microsoft, so I recognize that I may be biased. I have medium/large sized hands, but I prefer small notebook mice as I tend to manipulate them primarily using my fingertips and not with my palm. Larger mice simply seem clunky to me now. This is quite literally the flattest mouse I've ever used, and after just a few hours of use, my previous mouse (the venerable MS Notebook Mouse 5000, of which I have had many copies) even seems large. After ordering, I was initially worried that this would not suit my intended casual purpose after reading that the mouse buttons are hard to press on soft surfaces. Immediately upon inspection of the mouse on arrival, it became clear why this is the case: traditional mice have a rigid body composing the bottom and sides of the mouse, and flexing buttons on top. This enables the couch/bed user to hold the device firmly by grasping the sides of the mouse with the thumb and ring or pinky finger while the index or middle finger depress the mouse buttons. This mouse (and, I imagine, other touch-surface mice like Apple's magic mouse) inverts this by creating the top and sides as a single unit. Underneath is a 'platform' that clicks into the upper body of the mouse to create the click. This particular mouse is a bit extreme in design for this style, as the metal sides wrap under the mouse about 1/4" all around before the platform underneath begins. In order to 'click' the mouse while in the air, one must press the floorplate into the body of the mouse from underneath as grasping the sides will serve no functional purpose in this endeavor - save, perhaps, to keep from dropping it. That said, though I will avoid them with this mouse when convenient to do so, I was eventually able to reliably get this mouse to click on soft surfaces. I accomplish this by essentially raising back of the mouse a few mm and angled so that the button side I want is the only one in contact with the surface and I sort of drag the mouse back slightly as I press it into the surface (Note that the mouse need not actually slide along the surface - I am merely attempting to describe the direction of force). This sounds somewhat complex or tedious, but after a few minutes of concentration, I developed a rather efficient 'wrist flick' that accomplishes this task without having to even consciously pay attention to what I was doing. On a solid surface, I have found that when I reach for this mouse, I feel like I am simply reaching for a part of the desk that is slightly taller and moveable. I predict that, in time, I will cease to use my thumb and ring finger/pinky to obtain a significant purchase on the device, opting instead to move it around like a checker piece. Using three fingers to prevent its rotation. Although I had planned to use this mouse at home with my devices, because of the relative difficulty of using this on the arm of a chair and clicking the mouse quickly (for games like minecraft, etc), I think I will leave this at work instead and bring home my MS Notebook Mouse 5000 which will work better for my purposes - unfortunately negating the dual Bluetooth feature's raison d'être. However, I will still enjoy mousing with this device at work (where it's sure to see more action) and can appreciate its quality materials and construction. ****** Update 2/27/2014, rated down to 3 stars The right mouse button is becoming increasingly inconsistent and difficult to click...many attempts register as left mouse clicks. Other times, the right button performs flawlessly. A mouse has 3 main functions that must be consistent to be of use...report {X, Y} delta, left click and right click. All other features are superfluous, but help differentiate between products. This mouse has almost everything going for it (save for wireless charging...that would be awesome!), except for that dang right-click. Side scrolling is awkward so far (regarding hand position), and sometimes difficult to even actuate. Inconsistent across applications. I do like how silently these capacitive mice are when scrolling...the clicks with this mouse are on the noisy side, though. On a positive note, the mouse has been on for almost an entire work week, without switching it off at the end of the day, and with ~35 hours of actual use the battery is just now getting low. But not low enough that I'm getting an alert from Logitech's monitoring software, so it would seem that recharging only over the weekend might be plausible - though charging once mid-week may eventually become necessary. Also, I have not experienced any loss of connectivity with the mouse. So far, this has been rock-solid. I will point out that my MS mouse loses its signal with my laptop every 20 or 30 minutes, but had no issues with my workstation. This leads me to wonder if reported connection issues with this mouse is an issue with the mouse itself, or some other interference. ****** Update 2/28/2014 - Back to 5 stars! AHA! I just discovered the issue I was having with the right click...which apparently others have also discovered, and is something I should have read about before. This is my first touch-sensitive mouse, so I'm not sure how this compares to the MS or Apple offerings, but it would seem that there is only one clicking "button", and the mouse cleverly uses the touch sensitivity to determine which 'button' you want to use. Or rather, if all fingers are on the right side (for right-handed people), then a right-click is registered - otherwise, it's a left mouse click. Unfortunately, this means one must either raise their index finger, or reposition it to make the right-click - contrary to traditional mousing habits. Regarding the middle mouse click, I cannot seem to configure that with Windows, as if it doesn't recognize the presence of the third button on the mouse, so I disabled that feature with Logitech's software. I never use that feature anyhow. To make using the right "button" simpler, I would recommend to Logitech that that introduce a subtle but perceptible line on the surface for the user to index on. This would give the user more confidence that they will be actuating the correct function. Still, simply knowing this has already made life with the mouse much easier.

All in all, I highly recommend this mouse for all 'on-the-go' laptop users (both mac and pc loyalists) who are looking for a reliable, well built, ultra-portable mouse -with the added bonus of being able to control their two most-used bluetooth devices at a flick of a switch. I've owned this mouse for nearly 3 months now and think that its size and shape are perfect for my move-around work needs and the battery longevity allows me to worry less about accidentally running out of juice after forgetting to replace(in this case charge) the battery. As for comfort, Logitech did a great job focusing on the needs of the intended consumer demographic and created an 'ultra-thin' form factor geared for those who value portability over comfort...not for photoshop editors who really should stick with an ergo mouse meant for comfortable desk use. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For those worried about the lower ratings stating functionality problems continue reading below, as I've seen that a majority of them are a result of poor pre-purchase research, a failure to follow the included directions, or simply thinking a new mouse should adapt to them rather than vice-versa. From what I'm seeing about other users having line-by-line scrolling issues, horizontal scrolling issues, and touch functionality problems it is obvious to me that they ignored reading the instructions and did not install the Logitech Setpoint software. Speed of scrolling is set standard to 3-lines. As a result the scrolling tends not to be as fluid as most people are used to when switching from an analog scroll wheel. This can easily be adjusted by changing the settings to the 1-line option under scroll settings. Inertial scrolling( what you experience with swiping on a touch device) is enabled as a default but can also be disabled if you wish/are used to using larger finger motions. As for touch functionality, I was also a little irked at first being unable to horizontally scroll while on an web browser but later realized that I also overlooked disabling the option that limits single finger horizontal touch to only browser back/forwards when on a web browser. I disabled this and can now easily horizontally scroll at all times with one finger touch and browser back/forward with two fingers. Hope this over the top review shows how much this mouse has added to my mobile work, and as a result made me absolutely satisfied with this product.

Four stars, because, it is what it is for its intended purpose, but improvements can be made... Cons: This mouse is actually very small, it can fit inside a credit card's frame, so it's hard to use unless you have ultra-small hands. Did not expect it would be really be that small, should have read dimensions. Comes with very short 6'' micro-usb cable for charging the internal non-removable lithium battery, connects underneath and props mouse up at an angle, so can't use mouse while charging, see pros. Data rate capped at 88 Hz (Bluetooth), not great for gaming. Does not track on glass surfaces like Microsoft BlueTrak and Logitech Darkfield The middle click is so far back that you have to curl your finger back like a shrimp to use it or readjust your hand. This is one of those mice where the entire top surface clicks down as one, so you need some force to press it and it's solid and confirmed not very light and trigger happy. I've found that alot of times left-click would activate and right-click would be hard to trigger. Pros: Can toggle between 2 bluetooth receivers for using the same mouse on 2 different computers without repairing BT. Charges fast, 1 min of charge is about an hour of use, lasts up to 10 days per full charge. Fancy packaging, high quality feel to overall package, aluminum mouse with luxurious touch surface texture. No perceived wake-up lag. On other bluetooth mice, the device sleeps after a few seconds and stutter for a while until it sleeps again, but this mouse has none of that and seems to always be ready. Other: If the touch surface can support 3 fingers (your hands have to be small), and be customized to add gestures that would be great. What this is essentially trying to sell itself as is just a premium quality feel mobile mouse at sacrifice of ergonomics for good looks, with some touch features that is very portable and pocktable when a trackpad just won't do and no extra cables or dongles need be used, so a ultrabook companion is spot on. Does anyone know if and how the touch surface areas can be customized? I would like to put middle click in the center, and make left and right zones smaller on either side of that, and if tap-to-click but not press-to-click could be activated?

I just got it and it's not holding a charge. I'm busy like everyone else and it's a bit irritating to have to carve out time to return the product. I love it otherwise (the jury on carpel tunnel as others complain is still out for me). But brand new and not holding a charge is not making me happy. I'll give 'er one more spin, but after that, if it still doesn't work, I'd say stay away. Great concept, but poor execution so far. UPDATE: Well, after going back and forth with Logitech support (which I will say they were definitely responsive and followed up with me repeatedly -- ***** for that piece of it; truly exemplary), and using this on another system, I concluded it wasn't that the mouse wouldn't hold a charge -- it just won't stay connected to my Windows 7 laptop. So I would say, it's not "broken" -- it just doesn't work. So at this point, being a bit of both a HW and SW maven (I work in IT), it's a toss up as to whether this is Logitech's fault or not. My opinion is that Bluetooth support in the Windows architecture is way below par. It could be that Logitech hasn't written their drivers properly for the Windows 7 architecture. It could be that the interface between the driver and Windows is faulty. On the hardware side, there are probably only a handful of Bluetooth manufacturers, and one would think Logitech would write for all of them. But I know from experience how difficult support of multiple hardware drivers can be. All of this could be the explanation for why some Windows 7 users say it's a great mouse and others say it's a fail. The bottom line is, this works flawlessly with my Macbook Pro -- nary an issue. On Windows 7, it's a complete fail. (But that's been my 20 year experience with Mac versus Windows almost across the board. Windows is horrible in general. The general populace has only now caught on that the Mac architecture is far superior and Apple had to lure people over to it through the music industry. :-)) Windows 7? Don't bother: * Apple Macintosh? Excellent: ***** (I've changed my rating to the average between the two.)

I have 2 Win 8.1 laptops, SSD, fast, etc, but not a lot of USB ports - so, using one port for a wireless mouse receiver isn't practical, unless you never want to plug more than 1 flash drive in at a time. I tried a MS Sculpt mouse, and it worked ok, as long as it was connected, but unfortunately it would disconnect itself at random intervals. On my Lenovo it would disconnect usually 6-10 times per hour, sometimes every 2-3 minutes. On my Dell Latitude, it disconnected less frequently, but still annoyingly often. Plus, when i switched from one computer to another, i had to re-pair the mouse every time. This UltraThin mouse has been in use for 5 days now, probably 10 hours total, and has not disconnected from the computer one time! PLUS, it has a switch on the bottom that lets me select which computer is active, and I don't have to re-pair the mouse when switching computers. I like it! It is as reliable as the RF mice that I have used for a number of years. It also works pretty well. 1. I have charged it up one time and it is still good for battery life. Not sure how long the battery will last, but it is not user-replaceable, so when the battery finally dies and won't be recharged anymore, the mouse will have to be replaced. 2. I have to hold it using my thumb and 4th finger tip, you can't grasp it like you could with a bigger mouse, and that takes some getting used to.. but the thinner profile means it fits nicer in my bag 3. The clicking - R and L - work ok. I am still getting used to scrolling by brushing the top of the mouse with my fingertips. I haven't really figured out all the rest of the Win 8 gestures, but so far so good. This gets a great rating because it works without using up one of my rare USB ports on my laptops, and doesn't disconnect like my other BT mouse did. The form factor takes a little getting used to... but... that's life. It is also nice to be able to use one mouse for multiple computers without reconfiguring them each time.

The T630 is a good travel mouse. Too small to be usefull for long periods of time. Not a desktop mouse at all. This mouse (T630) is a travel mouse nothing more. It is not a true desktop mouse for getting work done. The T620 is a better mouse in my opinion overall. The shape of the T620 fits in the hand comfortably. This is important, the size of the T630 is way too small to be used comfortably. Even for short periods. As of this writing Logitech has scaled down their product range and their mice with touch surfaces is down to just a few. This being the main one. They have abandoned the desktop user, especially those of use who depend on getting work done. They have discontinued the M600 and T620 touch mice. Now they have zero, zilch, no touch mice for the desktop user. None for the professional desktop user. If you do work from home, forget about the T630 touch mouse. Get the Logitech T650 touch pad. As for touch mice seek out different manufactures or get the T620 or M600 while you can. The price have went way up due to demand on Amazon. Problem with that is that if you need to get real work done and use a desktop or laptop for extended periods, the T630 will end cramping your hand and is not comfortable for long periods or getting some serious work done. The T620 is much better in this regard. Shame that they discontinued the T620. Now Logitech has no touch mouse that is comfortable to use currently in production. Zero. I don't know who designed this thing but it must have been someone with very, very small hands. My 9 year says it is as big as her Logitech mouse for kids. Actually her mouse built for kids is bigger! Look at the photos! Really logitech, really. I don't care how you use this mouse, it will cramp your hand. Period. And as much as some reviewers like to blame the users on not using the mouse correctly, that is a poor judgement on that reviewer. As I have tried to flatten my hand out, use my fingers, everything from trying to keep this mouse from cramping my hand up. Nothing works. IT is just too small period.( My ten yearold loves it, fits her hand perfectly)End of story. Nice for short bursts and using it on the go for short periods and thats it. But if you need a mouse to get some serious work done and for extended periods. Steer clear of the Logitech T630. If logitech would only make the T630 materials and shape in the size and shape of the T620 they would have a magic mouse killer on their hands. I would avoid this mouse if you can help it. I have owned every touch mouse on PC and Mac you can think of. The logitech M600, T630, T620, magic mouse, magic track pad, logitech T650 touch pad, microsoft touch mouse and more. No one should adapt to a product, that is a sign of a poor product design if you have to adapt to it. A good product like a mouse should be comfortable and portable. Not one or the other. This mouse is the worst of them because of its size and form factor. That is it. That is the downfall of this mouse. Shame it would be king of the hill other wise. Shame on you Logitech for abandoned the professional desktop user. I am all for 'mobile' products. And the T630 is a good 'mobile' product. But how about the bread and butter desktop user? Most people like myself have both you know?

I purchased this mouse to use as a travel mouse with my Venue 8 Pro and Microsoft Surface Pro 2. It is small and light enough to always have with you. I place it in a pocket in my backpack when headed to my college classes, and if I end up doing some studying on campus, it is super handy to have a mouse handy and always ready. I find that I actually use the gestures included with the mouse, unlike previous products that promised decent gestures but were plagued by bugs. The scrolling is super smooth, and I like being able to swipe in from the sides to switch tasks or bring up the options menu. I also tested this mouse with an Android phone, the Samsung Galaxy Note 2, and it worked perfectly. The ability to switch between two devices is awesome and I use this often. Although it would be nice to have more than 2 assignable bluetooth devices, bluetooth is extremely easy to pair on this device. You just push the sync button, and your host device will then see the mouse and be able to connect with it. Takes about 10 seconds once you get used to the process. I have not had difficulty with the clicking action of the mouse like other reviewers; it feels very natural to me and works extremely well. I knew that I was getting a small mouse (which is WHY I bought it), so I knew I'd have to use a fingertip grip. This isn't as bad as others make it out to me, and it feels extremely accurate and precise. Others have said it is hard to click on a sofa or soft surface, but I find it is still relatively easy to use in those situations. I never experienced issues while mousing on my leg. I also keep a small foam mousepad in my bag, and if I put that down on a couch I have *zero* problems. I also found the middle click to be natural. Once you use this mouse for a day the middle click location (about 1/2 back from the front of the mouse) is perfectly natural. The only downside I have found to this clicking action is that you cannot keep one mousebutton held down and click with the other. A good example of when you would want to do this is if you play FPS games, you cannot right click and hold to zoom in with a scope, then click with the left button to shoot. You can *only* right click or left click with this mouse, not both at the same time. Once again, I bought this for school so I didn't expect it to be a gaming mouse. That being said, it is fine for games like Minecraft or any others that don't require 2 mousebuttons to be held down at once. Overall I am extremely impressed with this mouse given its size. I would recommend it to anyone as a travel mouse.

I've had this mouse for nearly three years now. I use it rarely because while it's compact and easy to transport, it's too small to use comfortably for more than an hour or so. But to have a mouse when I travel to the library or a hotel to do some fast work, this isn't a major problem. What IS a major problem is the connectivity issue I've been having with the latest Mac OS (15). The mouse now cuts out after a few minutes of my not using it. Worse, all the old Bluetooth gremlins appear. I have to remove the mouse from my BT devices on my Mac then go through the laborious process of finding/connecting to the mouse. Then a few minutes later, the mouse is no longer connected to the Mac. Again. I finally gave up and returned to using a clunky, old-fashioned IR mouse with dongle. I have to attach this to my Macbook with an awkward plug in adaptor, but at least once the mouse is connected I don't loose the connection. *ORIGINAL REVIEW* I grew up with computers, I guess like very many others, and have collected over my lifetime more mice than single pairs of socks, of which I have an entire drawer-full. There's always something I hate about a mouse, no matter how costly the investment in it. Too fat, too low, too cheap and plasticy-feeling, too light (flies off desk easily), too long (doesn't fit in briefcase pocket), and my all-time most hated problems--poor tracking (usually a sluggish tracker) and bluetooth sleep function that turns the mouse off while I'm in the middle of my work. This Logitech mouse, however, is the best mouse I've bought in all the years I've been collecting these techno-rodents. It's phenomenally small (so literally fits in my pants pockets or any pocket of my briefcase). Despite its compact size, it's very well constructed with it's chilled brushed aluminum side facade complementing the silky smooth matte plastic function-imbued top combining to give the mouse a pleasantly surprising heft. Though half the size of my Best Buy "portable" Bluetooth mouse, this Logitech version is heavier and, therefore, more stable in my hand. To address my biggest pet peeves with mice, first, the tracking on the Logitech is superb. Its directed cursor glides across my screen just as smoothly as if I were using my machine's already excellent trackpad. Also, the base of the mouse, three smooth plastic pads, works just as well on wood as on a faux-leather desktop pad as on, and I'm using it here now, my flannel bed-clothes. I've never before been able to use a mouse on my bed-sheets. What's more, the mouse appears not to go to sleep. I'll happily sacrifice battery longevity to keep the mouse active. As soon as I touch the mouse the cursor springs to life. I loathed having to wait for the Bluetooth signal to reconnect to my machines in the past. This functionality alone would make this one of my favorite mice. I should add, though, that there's an on/off button under the mouse. I just turned it off at the end of the previous sentence, waited a while, turned it back on, and IMMEDIATELY the BT connected and the mouse works as flawlessly as initially. I agree with others that the mouse is too small for extended use (8+ hours), but I'll be using it in my classes and in the field, as well as intermittently at home. I wanted a mouse that was so slight I didn't have to think about space in transporting it. This mouse fits the bill perfectly. That it works seamlessly with my laptop is an unexpected boon. Just a terrific mouse--I may even buy several for holiday presents this year.

Es un mouse muy pequeño, se puede tomar solo con los dedos. La palma de la mano no descansa en el mouse, esto podría resultar incomodo. La superficie tactil es excelente, funciona muy bien! Sin instalar software extra

An excellent mouse. Connected to my Dell xps 13 Linux laptop like a breeze. The resolution is good, highly responsive. It automatically connected when the laptop resumed after a suspension. No worries about batteries as it can easily be recharged. I would recommend this mouse to all the Linux users. Dell xps 13, ubuntu 16.04, kde window manager. 16 gig RAM 512 gig disk.

Muy buen producto y muy practico, cómodo y super manejable. cumple todo lo que dice en cuanto a tamaño y funciones.

Excellent Mouse. Single mouse works on Mac (need Logitec Preference Manager App) and Windows 8 with simple switch as expected. In my experience, this is better than apple magic mouse. It is very small. Difficult to use for big hand people.

This mouse if very small, so if you have large hands, you will find it a bit tiresome. It is a very good travel mouse due to the profile.